Ashley P Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I'm down to about 1% gumption for this remodel. I'm trying to trade some labor with an electrician, I've got his 68 Camaro running, got the brakes almost rebuilt. Trying to get the shell of a house ready for some heat to work this fall/winter. I want emergency heat in the basement in the form of a wood stove, and the flue needs to be installed soon anyway, so I just priced most of what I will need..... $2600. Urg. Triple wall, stainless, brackets and supports. *rolleyes* *I wonder what an assisted living place costs?* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ashley P Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 So far I bought a $300 kit at TSC that includes all the adapters, and I also bought one flue pipe 24" long. It was about 130. About $450 so far. Just looked at floor and roof joists....I think they're perfect, a straight shot from basement to roof with no structure mods. Too easy. I musta missed something.... My initial 2600 estimate was from an online chimney store. They wanted $230 for pipe. NorthernTool has it for about 130 for 36" long. That'll be about 700 more in pipe, total investment close to 1150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 What if that pipe lands on a joist? Can you jog it over to get in between? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Elbows are available in 15 and 30 degree offsets, but are very expensive (about $400 for two elbows and a support strap). That's why I'm tickled that I don't have any joists to move or go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 Last night in two hours I cut the floor, cut braces for the floor, cut ceiling and shortened some bracing there, and cut old roof decking to expose the bottom of new metal and purlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 more hours to cut the roof and mock up everything through the roof. Supports need to be installed, a metal surround built around the pipe from the floor up beyond attic insulation, and caulk the exterior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Another $125 ish for black stove pipe. Another couple hours to move and clean the stove. Burned some dry oak leaves and cardboard to burn off the black pipe. Didn't set the house on fire. Success! (Total materials about $1300; total time about 6 hours my time, 8 hours son time) Where the pipe went up through the joists leaves me with a joist for a return air duct. I'm gonna put a register near the top of the stove and at the other end of the return. I can then select stove heat to be circulated by the HVAC blower. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 Thinking out loud again: Speaking of HVAC, that's next. If you have common sense and want to pull your hair out, watch about 20 videos about duct sizing. I've "learned" that CFM is volume, slow air never comes out of a duct, and many other things that make me think bad things about humanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I watched a few videos on geothermal last night. Talk about misinformation. Some of these guys just do not understand heat transfer at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 Stupid update for a stupid project: This summer a tree crashed my overhead wire to my well house. I ran a wire on top of the ground to supply temp power to keep water. I debated putting the tank/pressure switch in the basement, but that would require a wire to be trenched from the house to the well (which is not in the well house). Well, the extreme cold last week froze pipes in the well house, and my bladder tank was also ruptured from old age. Since it all had to be redone, a move to the basement was made. Today a son and I hand trenched 32' from the house to well, installed the wire, and buried it. Now to design my water flow in my basement. Probably gonna stack my tank and water heater to save space. Pondering using the old pressure tank as a lukewarm/solar preheated water supply to the heater heater and showers. Why mix cold water with hot when you could mix lukewarm water with hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Did you direct bury the wire or put it in conduit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 I direct buried. It's the underground like double insulated stuff. (Actually leftovers from a roll where I wired the pump in 07.) (Have you priced conduit?? Urgh!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 My Camaro ownin' electrician buddy came by last weekend to see what I'm doing. He gave me a lot of pointers, a few goals, and said we can get a lot done in a short time. I've got most boxes mounted, trying to complete them by this weekend. I also got his brakes bled this week, so he's feeling good about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 Yesterday, between the electrician giving me lots of "how-tos" and me and two boys pulling wire, we got about 1/2 of the upstairs roughed in. I think his advice and guidance put some gumption in my tank. Either that or I now have enough understanding to proceed with only a small chance of failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Good thing about electricity is it works or it doesn't. And there isn't a "slow" leak. If you messed up, you know it right away 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 ^ Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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